Old King Doran

Old King Doran

Health 2575 231
258 267
258 Bleeding 540
174 Poison 477
258 Plague 303
Location Boletarian Palace
Drops 27200 Souls
Ancient King's Set
Eternal Warrior's Ring

Old King Doran is an NPC in Demon's Souls and Demon's Souls Remake. NPCs are the various characters that are encountered by the player throughout their journey. NPCs provide information, others are quest givers, while some are categorized as Merchants and/or Blacksmiths whom you can trade with or request for certain services.


Old King Doran , also known as “The Last Hero,“ is a demigod of the ancient past and the founder of Boletaria, locked away by the False King inside a great shrine which houses one of the Kingdom’s most holy treasures - the Demonbrandt.

The player receives the key to unlock and free Old King Doran from Ostrava’s corpse, or if you rescue him in world 1-4, and thus can challenge Doran to a duel for the right to claim the Demonbrandt.


Old King Doran Information

Optional quest to obtain one of the King's swords, Demonbrandt

  • Get the Mausoleum Key from Ostrava and use it to open the big door behind the Red Eye Knight in world Boletarian Palace.
  • Doran will ask you to Prove Your Worth to get the sword, attack him until you do enough damage to impress him with your skills. After some damage is done (~25%) he will say you have shown your worth, and invites you to take the sword (he will do minimal attacks on you).
  • If you continue to attack him and lower his HP to near 50%, he will become hostile and attack you, be ready for a difficult fight.
  • Immune to Soulsucker.
  • Note: Be advised: Killing Doran will drop your World Tendency by 2.
  • Note: Old King Doran does not drop a demon soul when killed.

Drops the following if killed:


Old King Doran Location: Where to Find Old King Doran


Old King Doran Strategies

Backstab Strategy

  • This is the strategy you use if you are unable to use the other strategies.
  • Make sure you have the Thief's Ring equipped.
    Remove all your armor to ensure maximum mobility, since being hit by King Doran will result in death anyway.
    Equip your best back stab weapon, preferably a Dagger (Fatal weapons would also do). Fifth have a bow or a long range spell ready. If you have the Clever Rat's Ring or Morion Blade equip it and lower your health to below 30% so you can cause more damage per back stab (About 2x). Now here are the basic and safest steps to what you should do to defeat him. Here's a map to also help you visualize the strategy.
  • When the fight starts run back to the bridge and make sure he is following you.
    When he is around half way through the bridge, walk out of his line of sight by moving into the room right before the bridge.
    Then take a look at the bridge and see if he is walking away. If not then walk further away from him until you can definitely not see each other.
    If he is walking away then walk right behind him and stab him in the back, then move or roll away.
    Now this is the riskiest part of all. Pay attention to what he does when he gets up.If he moves towards you then go back to step 1 and repeat everything over.
    If he rolls away, walks away, or just just stands up and does nothing, then shoot him with a long range spell or bow quickly because he is most likely going to attempt to heal himself.
    Whether you succeed in stopping him or not, go back to step 1 and repeat everything over again. When his health is below 50% he will become a lot more aggressive, so be careful. Also be sure to only try to back stab him when you know there is no chance of him turning a little bit to the side. If he notices you, he will instantly attack you.
  • Note: You can also keep Doran outside the room

Basic Melee Strategy

  • For his first 25-50% health, he will wield his sword in one hand, and will slash his weapon from side to side one time, then usually roll backwards. On occasion, he will roll forward before his attack, this is when he is most dangerous. For most players, his basic attack will kill in one hit, regardless of armor, and a shield is only effective if it is the Dark Silver Shield. For the first half of his HP you can just walk in a small circle, just touching the edge of his attack range. Counterattack when he swings , but never use the last of your stamina since you will want to roll away right after your attack. Once you take him down 25%, you can take the Demonbrandt. You can get another 25% of his health before he becomes hostile again, but only the first time you meet him. If you lose the battle and have to come back he will remain hostile.

Knock-back effect strategy

  • This works well with the Meat Cleaver or Bramd. Make sure you have enough stamina to swing the weapon three times in a row to use the knock-back effect. Doran will be thrown by the third swing and this will give you time for your stamina to replenish and/or heal. The long blade should enable you to hit Doran while staying out of his range.
  • Once he is at 50% health he switches to a two-hand grip and will attack overhand, side-to-side, running, rolling, and heal himself. This part of the battle can be very difficult, so come prepared. Cast Second Chance. Each time he kills you run away and re-cast it. He will never use his heal when disengaged, so provided he gives chase initially, he will not heal. You should time this as he is running at you to preempt his swing. A slight miscalculation however will allow him to roll under the swing and hit you.

Hide behind the statue

Blessed Mirdan Hammer Strategy

  • The Blessed Mirdan Hammer is an effective weapon to use against him. By wielding the weapon with two hands, your attacks will be fairly quick. If your Faith or relevant magic increase stat is > 30, you will be able to stagger him with R1quick attack chains. When you are low on Stamina, simply back away. You should never be at a range where you are unable to evade his retaliation after staggering. The exact method employed is to equip the Mirdan Hammer with an offhand item that will grant you a beneficial effect, such as an Adjudicator's Shield or Morion Blade. When you are ready to kill Doran, walk backwards towards where the Red Eye Knight] spawns. You'll notice once you exit the little tower room, he will halt his attack and begin to back away after he makes a swing. When he does this, you can simply walk forward to him, attack until your Stamina is almost gone, then back away quickly. It is recommended that you do this in armor that does not impede stamina regeneration. In fact you may want to remove all armor as one hit from Doran will kill almost any player.

Fatal Fall Strategy - Stormruler

  • You need Stormruler for this strategy which you obtain in Old Hero Archstone Walkthrough. You need to kill the entire path of enemies from the red eye knight in front of the mausoleum all the way to the shortcut stairs past the catapults and the blue eye knight. Once that is done, go to the mausoleum and hit king Doran and lure him to the middle of the catapult area as outlined in the previous strategy. Then run around him so that you are between him and the doorway that leads to the mausoleum. Perform a normal (R1) attack with Stormruler. When your attack hits him, he will fly backwards towards the shortcut tower. Keep hitting him until you get to the stairs in the shortcut tower that lead down. At that point just knock him off the top of the stairs and let him fall to his death. You can then go to the bottom and collect the items he drops when he dies. Just be careful of his attacks, which should stop after you are past the first catapult.

Fatal Fall Strategy - Mail Breaker

  • This strategy can be done before beating Phalanx with any build, all you need is the Mail Breaker which you can get from the corpse on the far end of the room to the right as soon as you enter the first fog. If you do not want to kill Ostravathen it would be best to backstab him off the edge and once again, he should not attack you and will go on to get killed by the Blue Eye Knight. Defeating the Red Eye Knight is challenging. Equip the Thief's Ring, lure him towards you then run towards the catapult, he should begin to head back.
    Backstab. Rinse and Repeat.
  • Have the Mail Breaker equipped in one hand and be light enough to roll properly. Open the Mausoleum and attack Old King Doran then step back. Lure him out. Throwing Firebombs makes this quicker. Once he is past the catapults, get in front of him and R1 attack him to the stairs where the guard dropped the big iron ball. Try to stop him from moving forward by blocking his path. Once you have pushed him down those stairs you must push him down the hallway and down the top of the next stairs to his death.

Blue Phantom Strategy

  • Possibly one of the weirdest strategies, but if you have two blue phantoms helping, it works. First, engage King Doran, the blue phantoms cannot fight him. Doran appears as a white phantom, so you actually have to fight him by your self. But, your Blue Phantom's actually interfere with him, so in reality, you can block Doran with your blue phantoms. Maneuver him into a corner, and with your blue phantoms in place, Doran is effectively locked into a corner and cannot move. If you have a spear then you can attack from a distance with no fear of stray hits. Once he dies, even the phantoms get souls for his death.

Ranged Strategy

  • These conditions are very difficult to achieve. Make sure you have a decent Bow and about 200 arrows.
    Pull King Doran all the way back into the room you pass through before meeting the Red Eye Knight. In this room, it is possible to manoevre Doran so that he becomes stuck between the table and the wall immediately to the left inside the entrance nearest to the Mausoleum.
    Using a Quality Compound Longbow +4, it's possible to kill him with less than 100 arrows.

Poison/Death Cloud

  • Use Thief's Ring to get close enough to cast Poison Cloud or Death cloud and simply wait for him to die. Must be cast three times on first playthrough.
  • Also works with Cloak spell, if you Cloak and walk far enough into the room with Doran at full health you can cast one single Death Cloud and just be patient. Takes a little over 5 minutes and waiting outside the room observing him with your camera. If you remain in the Red Eyed Knight area he will not aggro and will simply stand still and die.

Homing Soul Arrow

  • Stay inside of spell range, but outside of Doran's attack range and keep casting Homing Soul Arrow while away from Doran. If he gets too close unlock and run away a bit, then lock on again and start casting Homing Soul Arrow again. If you have a Ring Of Magical Sharpness you should use that to boost the damage output of your spell.

Level 1 Royalty Strategy

  • Start as Royalty Class, and kill Ostrava, of Boletaria (Prince Ariona Allant) when you see him and loot the key. Use Soul Arrow on the Red Eye Knight and go through the door. Soul Arrow Doran until he chases you. Lure him back to the catapults, and for some reason, he'll begin walking back to his room. Soul Arrow him while he is doing this and he will not try to dodge. Eventually, he'll come after you again. Repeat this until he gives you the Demonbrandt sword, or continue until he's dead. The Fragrant Ring's MP regeneration will help you.

God's Wrath Strategy

  • Equip Thief's Ring, Silver Coronet if possible, and have a lot of Fresh/Old Spices. Make sure you have the God's Wrath spell. When the fight begins, cast God's Wrath. As Old King Doran gets back up, if you have enough magic remaining, castGod's Wrath another time. Otherwise, allow King Doran to chase you. Let him chase you around the table at the end of the room. Eventually he'll go back to his "starting"position in the middle of the room. When this happens, you'll have enough time to take some Spices to regain magic and to start casting again. The idea is to cast God's Wrath as much as possible, then allow King Doran to chase you around the table then replenish magic, then casting again. Be careful: After you cast God's Wrath at him, if you do not approach him to allow him start chasing you, he'll probably try to heal himself. So after every cast, it's best to get close to him then run back around the table. 

Blind Spot Glitch

  • This is the easiest way to kill him at all. Run from him, but keeping a distance that makes him chase you.There will be a point(generally at the catapult area) where he will stop chasing you and walk slowly back to the mausoleum.At this time, put your weapon in both hands and hit him or use a damage spell as most as you can until he gets in the house after the catapults, because there he will chase you again. Run from him until he stops and repeat the process until he is beaten.

Catapult Glitch

  • While he is charging you, as long as you keep a close, but not too close, distance, he will follow regardless where you lead him. You can lead him to the middle of the catapult area, and once he stops chasing you, get ahead of him so you are between him and the doorway. At this point he will not attack you, so power push3 him past the first catapult. Once he is positioned at a safe distance from the catapult, you may attack him at will. As long as you remember to keep him properly positioned you should have no trouble.

Door Glitch

  • Take the strongest weapon you have, preferably a large two handed weapon like the Meat Cleaver. What you have to do is to get Doran behind one of the doors of the Mausoleum. He has to be inside it while you're outside. You have to have a good idea of where he is, which isn't hard, or still be locked on while he's behind the door. When he's walking into the door, just smash the door with an R2 attack. The weapon will either clip through the door or clip far enough to hit Doran. He should never try to walk around the door. Make sure you are using a two handed weapon as Doran can also attack you through the door, a two handed weapon will give you the advantage of distance.

Greeting Glitch

  • You can run to the back of Doran while he is talking (i.e. his greeting) and stab him in the back. This may cause him to just stand in place, without attacking, and repeat his greeting. Keep stabbing him in the back while he is giving his greeting. Keep doing this until he either dies or he stops talking and prepares to fight you.

Blue Phantom Strategy

  • Summon two blue phantoms and have them interfere with the Old King. They will only see him as a phantom and they will not be able to attack him; however, they can still get in front of him and stop him from walking towards you. The best strategy is to have the two blue phantoms to back him up in a corner and stop his movement completely. You can then kill him with either a large weapon, a bow, or magic.

Rolling out of sight glitch

  • Attack him untill he becomes hostile, then run away until he loses interest and walks back.
    Then wait till he's all the way back to where he started and stand outside of the door (where the Red Eye Knight was).
    Take out your bow (make sure you have plenty of arrows, at least 100-150).
    Use the bow zoom option to aim. Don't stop shooting, he will eventually roll away to the side to dodge your arrows (usually after 1 or 2 shots he will start doing that). Keep shooting at him until he rolls to the side of the room where you can't see him. Now just wait a few moments, you can hear him running to you, but he can't see you and he will give up after a few seconds. Now he will walk back to his starting position and you can shoot him again just like before.
    Just keep doing that and you will eventually easily kill him, without taking any damage. When you can't get him to roll out of sight on time, just run away from him and he will go back to his starting position and you can try again.
    Poison Cloud from Outside
    After Doran becomes idle from having earned Demonbrandt, position yourself behind him. Using a weapon with significant critical damage and preferably one with the upgrade, strike Doran in the back to send him toppling into the center of the room. He should not be aggressive after this one little knock, so don't hit him again and instead run to right outside the doorway into the area the Red-Eye knight was. From here, cast poison cloud into the mausoleum and allow it to expand into Doran. He will become poisoned from the attack, but as long as you are not inside the mausoleum he should not chase after you and instead stand in the middle of the room taking damage. After the second cast he may threaten you, but shouldn't chase after you. Repeat the spell until he falls over, having never had a chance to fight back.


Old King Doran Dialogue

When entering:

  • Thou who seeketh the King's sword!
    I am the Old King.
    Show me thine strength and the strength of thine souls.
    Prepare thyself, brave knight.

When given the sword:

  • Thou dost well to impress one such as me, young knight.
    I am Old King Doran, and thou hast proven thine strength to me.
    Go forth, and take the King's sword in thine hand.

If challenged after giving the sword:

  • I am the Old King. Dares't thou to challenge me? Very well.
    But may thou be determin'd from the depths of thine heart, else thou shalt fail.
    May fate be with thee.


Old King Doran Notes, Tips, and Trivia

  • Voiced by: Chris Fairbanks
  • One of the two swords needed to forge the Northern Regalia
  • Use both for combined damage
  • Practice the power push move on a weaker enemy until you know the timing very well


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    • Anonymous

      cheese using any ultra weapon/weapons that knock human enemies on their ass (i.e dbs or the "greatsword"), lure him to the doorway you took to get to him at the first place, eventually his ai will make him walk back to his original spot so try and get in front of him before he gets too far, use the aforementioned ultra weapon of choice to knock him back outside the door leading to the catapults, he'll continue to ignore you since he's out of bounds to attack and he'll only focus on walking back in so push him back as much as you'd like while putting on as many status effects you'd like on him, continue until he's finally dead and claim your loot. good luck and try not to get one shot to whoever still plays this game

      • Anonymous

        Just defeated him using the parry/reposte method with my fatal estoc+5. I have to say it’s quite a satisfying way of besting him. If you want to be slightly cheesy you could also get a back stab in just after he gets up.

        • Anonymous

          Was going for the storm ruler method and he fell down the drop down where the bow is at. Somehow he managed to drop to his death while trying to path his way back

          • Anonymous

            Just got a PS5, so newbie to Demon's Souls. However I feel like I accidentally stubbled across an even easier cheese version of the poison cloud:
            After you get him to 1/3 of his health and he gives you demonbrandt, leave the area/ reload it. The second time he will have more dialogue and then start aggro. After that he will just aggro if you get close enough. I found that is you stand in the center of the second square of tile in front of him and cast poison cloud, he won't move, react, aggro, or even heal past half health. after about 15 minutes of repeating Poison Cloud he died. Unbelievably convenient after the MANY different cheeses and tactics I attempted. Hope this helps someone.

            • Anonymous

              I was going for the "throw him down the stairs" strategy, but then he got stuck in the little room, behind a chair, so I just pumped him full of arrows, because I needed the armor and ring. I think I should have PBCT IRL...

              • Anonymous

                Was mine bugged? He literally wouldn't attack but whenever I tried healing he rushed and almost destroyed me. (PS3)

                • Anonymous

                  So he doesn't scale with ng cycles? I swear he felt easier in ng+ than during my first playthrough.. And I used the very same weapon and only got about 10 levels more, so that couldn't be it either.

                  • Anonymous

                    When you challenge him in the remake after already getting demonbrandt he shames you by calling you foolhardy but in the original he still shows respect towards you and literally wishes for faith to be on your side, really bad dialogue change in the remake.

                    • Is he always supposed to speak to you and ask to prove your worth? I'm trying to do the cheese to get his items, but he hasn't said anything yet. Getting him to move out to the catapult area is so difficult. Why does he turn around so quickly?? He hasn't seemed to de-aggro for me either.

                      • Anonymous

                        on the original ps3 version at least, grab a weapon of your choice and the dragon bone crusher. use the weapon of choice to get to the mausoleum then remove all armor and equipment except for the DBC. the knockback will give him no chance to hit you if done right.

                        • Anonymous

                          Jesus **** they gave this guy two attacks and cranked his health, damage, and defense to **** and called it a day, making the fight near impossible it you wanna square up and fight him normally, so people have no choice but to resort to cheese and unintended strategies. Such a lore important figure deserves a better right than this.

                          • Anonymous

                            This guy is super easy to parry once you don’t panic. I’m referring to the original but I’m assuming it’s just as easy in the remake?

                            • Anonymous

                              Homing Soulsmass at 50 Magic destroys him. If you're a mage and doesen't have the balls to fight him mano-a-mano, try it out

                              • Anonymous

                                Claiming Demonbrandt right at the start of the game is pretty straightforward. The dagger from Boldwin and the bastard sword from 1-1 each do about 13 damage per backstab which is as simple as rolling behind Doran’s swing and backstabbing him. It has the same idea as fighting Havel early, just repeat the process for a long enough time and it’s pretty easy but if you lose concentration and make one mistake it resets.

                                • Anonymous

                                  If I want to do a demonbrandt playthrough is it possible to get his health down to earn the sword at the start of the game? Is his defence too high to actually damage him at the very start of the game? I only want to get the sword then leave him alone till the end of the playthrough so I wouldn’t be using the strategies to make him fall to his death etc

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Have him follow you to the catapults. As he starts to walk back to the Mausoleum, get in his way and start "kicking" him (r1+forward on left stick at the same time). As long as he's past the catapult he won't attack, and you can just keep pushing him to the stairs and to his death. Super super easy. If his stuff drops in midair just save and reload at Mausoleum

                                    • Anonymous

                                      The Fatal Fall strategy with Stormruler worked well for me. Make sure you bring one or two Ed's sharpening stones with you, though. By the time I got Doran near the shortcut stairs I needed to repair the sword.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        "Use Thief's Ring to get close enough to cast Poison Cloud or Death cloud and simply wait for him to die."

                                        Actually, you can cast Poison Cloud AND Death cloud. They stack...

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Just lure him to the room where he starts to walk back. Headbump him to the stairs in the middle of the catapult bridge. Bump him down the stars and drop him to the left. Hop after him and keep bumping towards next downward stairs. When stairs start just drop him and hes dead. Takes 5min. I think this one was in the latest ymfah vid also.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            I tried to inflict plague on the Old King with a +2 Baby's Nail, but it didn't work. Is the dagger underleveld or is it impossible?

                                            • He is easy if.....
                                              You can get through his armor cut through, meaning you will have to do over 250 of any given type of damage (besides slash) at once, meaning heavy weapons, cursed weapon, super hyper mode, and even firestorm will be very effective.
                                              Otherwise you will do around 0.001 damage per hit and be totally hosed.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                He wasn't even there for me. I killed the King boss then went over to challenge him but there was only his set and ring to collect. No chance to get Demonbrandt (or Northern Regalia) if you beat Old King Allant before going to do this so make sure to challenge him before beating 1-4's area Boss.

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